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Working in China (&Teaching English) Part 3:

Posted in Culture, FAQ, Work Advice with tags , , , , , , , , , on April 24, 2008 by renlingshuiyue

This is part 3 of a long series on this topic, be prepared for acidity and jadedness:

Take all job offers (especially online) with enough salt to dry the dead sea.

Most westerners are hired for a few reasons in China, and here they are:

1. Mascot. You are the resident parade monkey they use to show off some aspects of his/her company. Be it metropolitan, cool, international, recognition, technology, or trustworthiness; there is something they need to put a foreign face on, and you are IT. Some people hated it, some people love it, and it’s up to you.

2. Technology Transfer. You may have worked in a company that has the technology/or just technical know how that they need. The requirements aren’t that technical in reality, you could have just worked in the industry and they just wanted to know how things were done over “there”.

3. Language/Communication Skills. Quite a few Chinese companies take over jobs from western service companies that works with multi-nationals or mid cap companies who aren’t interested or can’t deal with the complex bureaucracy needed in China to process certain things. They are often run by Chinese American(insert western country)s and staffed by high educated Chinese employees. But most of the time, they still have no clue how the “outside world” works, and they have trouble communicating what they can do, what is done and how the deadline works. Teleconferencing is actually a hell of embarrassment for a lot of highly educated/paid Chinese workers. Go figure.

4. Project Management. A lot of Chinese companies/people have trouble with this. This concept isn’t really very well understood in China. Even though China created the 4 great inventions of the world, when one speaks in terms of actual work, Chinese people are task(single goal), and routine orientated. Some companies or managers will run a project without knowing what the term means or how to take advantage of the available sources this sector has. You probably should speak a bit of Chinese.

5. Teachers. Most foreign ESL/English teachers are hired for a few things, mostly bragging rights and face time. It’s a very old cliche’ now for ESL schools to advertise that they have (in big and bright letters) FOREIGN teachers that teaches how many hours in their course. A few companies hire English teachers to upgrade their staff’s English levels, but most of the time, only the upper tier of service industry/or international company’s Chinese division that will do this. If you are coming here to teach, expect the competition to be fierce.

6. Deal with other Foreigners. A lot of Chinese companies don’t understand what western consumers want, which makes sense. These pampered companies haven’t really had to compete for every customer. Every market they ever entered had been a vacuum to start with. Customer service isn’t their strong suit. So what better way to deal with foreign customers than hiring foreigners? Expect to speak Chinese.

Don’t expect your contract to be sacred or to get paid (on time or at all).

Pay is a complicated issue in China. If you are coming here to teach English, and you are teaching in a private school in gods know where, there is a high chance that you might get cheated on your pay. NEVER tell any of your Chinese friends how much you make. The cultural landmines are surrounded by barb wires, lasers and sharks in moats. Leave it alone.

Is public school better? Well…, at least the promised room and board is real.

If you are coming to work in China, go through your contract VERY carefully. Make sure you have at least 1 copy of both English and Chinese version sign by both parties and possibly authenticated by a translator/lawyer you can trust. If it’s an important job, make sure important people know about it. You might want to give your home country’s business committee in China a heads up. Ask them about a good lawyer that you can trust, so you can double check that thing is kosher.

If you are going to work in a smaller city/town, be prepared to be a rock star.

Meaning, you will get stared at no matter WHERE you go. Most people find the attention flattering at first, until they learned that their friendliness actually have very heavy costs. NO PRIVACY. ZERO. NATA. ZIP. ZILCH. Hangzhou is NOT a small, backwards city. A black friend of mine who is from London can not go anywhere without gossip, pointed fingers, strange invitations to work for free, and other people TAKING his pictures. If you weren’t a private person before, you’ll probably be one after living here for a while. And if you have kids? Gods help you. This is, of course, assuming that you don’t look Asian/Chinese.

By the way, if you actually get to do the real job that you are hired to do, you have just won the lottery.

Exactly what it says. Don’t expect to do what you are hired to do, most of the time, the giddiness of having a (if you are the first or second) foreigner in their midst can be too tempting for all parties involved for any work to be done. And you will be surround with people, pounded with English questions, imitated, watched, and feared. Be on your toes, Chinese politics(people politics, not CCP) can be very nasty.

Of course, I am in no way saying all Chinese schools or companies are like this. But as Genghis Khan once said, “If you are cautious, 10 times aren’t enough to be trouble; if you are careless, 1 time is enough to kill you.”

And let me repeat this one more time for some out there:

China isn’t a place to escape a boring or mediocre life. I just don’t want to see another one going home 3-6 months, heartbroken, dream broken, life broken, bank broken, and drags his/her broken body home filled with menace and venom filled with misunderstood ignorance and hatred without realizing what this place can truly do for them.

I worked in Immigration for 4 years. I know how big cultural shock can be. No matter who you are. If you go on to live in a foreign land with a frivolous reason, you’ll probably regret it(hate yourself) sooner or later. Get your two feet on the ground first before boarding that plane in the air.

I wish you luck in your travels.

Teaching English/Working in China Part 1:

Posted in Essential / Must Read, FAQ, Work Advice with tags , , , , , , , on April 11, 2008 by renlingshuiyue

Another series that will probably run for a long time, and no matter how many times I repeat myself or scream myself hoarse, clueless people continue to show up all the time.

There was a discussion about this at OE, and this was my response to a young Canadian guy who just got off animation school and getting bored with his office life. He wants adventure, fun, romance, and a dream life! This was his original question, (I’ll not print the discussion in full, because it requires too many permissions, but I’ll give the link below):

I could really use some career advice here. I just finished 4 years of animation school and while it is only my 1st year working as a proefessional animator I’m only pulling in about 43K a year. . and this is in Canada were at least 20% of it goes to income and sales taxes. Also I am working long hours and don’t get much in way of human interactions. (And everone I talk to thinks I have the coolest job haha!)

Mekhong. . your situation in Macau sounds like a dream job to me! I’d love to live in parts of China or Taiwan and teach at a university level. . and your tax free salary and benefits are great, considering the lower cost of living in China (as long as you can avoid those casinos in Macau!)

This was my response(mekhong is another semi regular at OE):

ROFL. Me and Jack here can probably write a novel on why not to come to China with that idea. I have been home for a month and the fresh air, drinkable water, hot baths, clean public places, and healthy/clean food make it seem like paradise.

You just got out of school, so you are probably much BETTER off working in the local area or go to the west coast like Cali or Vancouver for the animation scene.

Don’t expect to be the fab 5 life style here. It requires a lot of currency just to stay at the current life styles that some of the average North American families live. China is still dirt poor. Some farmers make $200 US a Year. The leather jacket I bought last year on 50% discount is still worth much more than that.

It’s ALL about WHO you know in China. You’ll be surprised the amount of doors opened when I was working in Hangzhou for a while and told people who my boss were. Party secretary. If you know anything about China, you will realize the amount of power that holds, and I didn’t. It was the most enlightening experience.

As for your salary, expect the monthly salary range around 3-6000RMB, which is 400-800 US a month. My life style in Beijing is as spartan as I can get, and I was spending 5000RMB a month. Then again, I do live in Beijing, and I haven’t started counting rent. I do teaching for fun since it’s nice to have someone look up to you, but it’s VERY hard to make it a good living unless you live outside of the 4 major cities and the living costs are MUCH cheaper. I have my business and teaching is good for me to practice my presentation skills.

As for animation, don’t expect to get hired in China, unless it’s for publicity reasons. If that’s the case, expect to be paraded around town like a side show.

I tell this to all the people who are seriously considering here, Don’t expect China to be the golden land that will solve all your problems. Tibet is suppose to be the Shangri-La, and look what Chinese did to it.

And if you want some real advice? Go see a good Career consulor. Sit down, talk with him or her on what you really want to do. I am Canadian too. I see a lot of people like you in China. Most of them come back after 3-6 months. Life is VERY different around here.

As for the teachers that really makes money? Those Montessori guys/gals. They make US dollars and British pounds. That’s the real money there. Make foreign dollars and spend RMB. RMB is useless anywhere else anyway.

As an animator, I am sure you are aware of the amount of work that is farmed out to China. Guess why? Cheaper. Can you, without any social or financial support live with their wages while learning the language?

Sorry for the cold shower, but having high expectations of China is like the AT&T. They spent millions courting the Chinese and in the end the Chinese never bought a single switch. And never be the old Macdonald-Douglas. In the end, all they got was bankruptcy.

Jacks’ Response:

Most of the young foreigners here in Lanzhou stay for quite some time just for the lifestyle. The pay is good considering one generally works less than twenty hours a week and the nightlife can be rather entertaining.

As for starting a business here. My experience is that you need to know someone. I’d go with that recommendation of getting a teaching job first, woo the locals with your charm, make some good contacts and then you can get stuff done. I have a friend from Canada who’s in the oil business. It’s fair to say that he’s loaded and while everyone wants a piece of that it’s also not been easy for him to get his business off the ground because it’s all who you know here.

If you want to teach, stay away from the universities. They’ll suck up your time and the pay isn’t great. Find a small school, Dave’s Esl Cafe is an excellent choice to look, and make sure they provide you with housing and what-not. Then, take it upon yourself to make contacts. Spend time hanging out where the local business guys hang out. If you’re not just another amusing monkey for them then they’ll take you seriously and provide you with more work.

I know we sounded cynical and jaded, but we have been here for a long time, and we have seen too many people fail, scammed, ruined and being made fool of.

Working in China is a big commitment, ESPECIALLY Teaching. There are a lot of cultural strings attached to this job that isn’t well understood in the west. Confucius was considered to be the grand role model for teachers. There are a lot of cultural expectations for this job that is just not there for western societies. Real teachers will love it here. The students here are smart, hard working, respectful, and don’t really talk back. But given the same mindset, you as a teacher are expected to be their legal guardian of sorts. You are the consular, boss, manager, priest and parent all rolled into one. It’s a very tough job, and the parents/adult students can be very demanding.

And never, I repeat, never misunderstand the respect as adoration or love. Going out with your students is a very bad idea. Only 2 types go out with their “English” students. Arseholes and idiots. If you are an idiot, may Deity/Deities have mercy on your soul. If you are of the first type, expect to be lynch mobbed and tarred and feathered. Public opinions can move very fast in China, and should the government get involved, don’t expect anybody to save you. Remember, you WILL be caught. There is 1.3 billion people here, and someone will see you. Doing stuff like this also makes life very uncomfortable for the hard working expats trying to live a respectful life here.

Should you help to turn negative opinion/spot light on our expat community, don’t expect help from us. We will help them find you!

Original Discussion from OE.

P.S: The exchange rate has changed, so the salary is less now.